What type or class of kart are you planning on racing next year? [Archive]

MPIGP - Phillip Gordon

01-25-2007, 09:23 PM

Martin

Have another martini and let it go man....it's not that serious...or is it? :stickpoke:

Think of it this way, maybe I did you a favor. As is stands, you have in your mind, maybe you could've beaten Timmy. If I had moved out of the way, you would've have known for sure that you couldn't :bump:

Martin Lenick

01-25-2007, 09:33 PM

I'm still sober (with verification next to me) and I'm only referring to your crediblilty. Were you accused of interfering, or did you interfere?

Rick

01-25-2007, 10:06 PM

:shakehead: Is it just me or are we :2dedhorse: again. All who were there that day clearly know what happened. Let the horse RIP.

Martin Lenick

01-25-2007, 10:28 PM

I'm not beating a dead horse; I started the textual replies to this thread by announcing my intention to race TaG (not leaving my credibility in good standing - sorry, DD2ers, I didn't give my interests enough thought when I said I'd race DD2.)

The next post brought up the dead horse in response. In a manner that suggests we all forgot what happened.

"Cool Breeze Racer", among all your other karts (now you're pushing electric-start shifters after you've "sold" the idea of DD2?) just show up with a TaG once and awhile and we'll see who interferes with whom.

Or better yet, just show up and actually stay for the day (and race, if you have it in you.)

Rick

01-25-2007, 10:42 PM

I'm not beating a dead horse; I started the textual replies to this thread by announcing my intention to race TaG (not leaving my credibility in good standing - sorry, DD2ers, I didn't give my interests enough thought when I said I'd race DD2.)

Well I'm definitely dissappointed that I won't get to race against you in the same class Martin. I understand why you are sticking with TAG. At least I'll be running in the same heat with you (hopefully). No matter how it turns out, I hope we all get to race with each other at Norway. Maybe I'll rent the vintage kart from you (if that's ok with you) so I can race TAG once in a while. :)

Phil said that the DD2s are going to MOJO tires which don't perform as well as the MG Yellows. Hopefully that will even things out enough between the DD2s and the TAG karts.

Or better yet, just show up and actually stay for the day (and race, if you have it in you.)

:bugeye::jawdrop:

Oh, I'm also planning on racing a big supercharged bright orange kart! :)

Martin Lenick

01-25-2007, 10:49 PM

The "Vintage Birel" is not for rent. It's for the free pleasue of whomever puts fuel in her and contributes to shoes when she needs them.

Martin Lenick

01-25-2007, 10:53 PM

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Oh, I'm also planning on racing a big supercharged bright orange kart! :)
Cool!
(You should change my name's subtext from "Undisputed..." to "Pickup Egress Expert")

MPIGP - Phillip Gordon

01-25-2007, 10:56 PM

Martin

Call me dumb, call me slow, but I didn't think you were taking this whole thing that serious but I guess your personal attacks means you are.

So to address your comments....I love shifting and wouldn't go back to a single speed kart if you paid me, although I have to admit your challenge is tempting. I 'pushed' and will continue to 'push' the DD2 because I believe in the Rotax program and it's only shifter they offer. If they offered a 6 speed Rotax, that's what I would be racing.

If you paid close attention, you'd notice I still raced my shifter in 2006 along with the DD2. When I get my electric start ICC I will also continue to race my DD2. It's a pity you changed your mind, it would've been fun taking all this crap, out of the forums and playing it out on the track. I'm sorry I don't get as serious as you about karting. It has always been fun and always will be fun to me. The day it stops being fun, I'll hang it up and go race something else.

Martin Lenick

01-25-2007, 11:11 PM

I tried finding an "I'm totally bored with this" smilie, but got bored. I also tried finding the old "CoolBreezeRacer" post regarding the numerous DD2 "Friends of ""CoolBreezeRacer"" racers that will be running at Norway this season, but got bored with that, too. If anyone can dig that up, I'll take bets on how frequently (read: infrequently) any of them show up. Err, correct that, not just "show up", but race.

Be carefull stirring the poop, "CoolBreeze", when it comes to endurance racing, this is a track I know well.

Shall we continue?

Rick

01-25-2007, 11:31 PM

:jerry: :gotpics: :jerry:

MPIGP - Phillip Gordon

01-25-2007, 11:37 PM

Here I'll help you:

Tim Wiggins
Brian Wiggins
Paul Dubet
Jack Costella
Chris Feurer
Dennis Dadas
David Gaber
Jerry Brown

Possibles:

David Simonar
Brad Theys

Most of these have very busy work schedules not to mention other 'toys' so running a 16 race schedule is not possible. In addition to that, most have never sat in a go kart before and prefer to run practice laps rather than enter a race. After watching the last 100 lapper at Norway, I don't blame them. Of the ones listed above, 4 or 5 of them are ready to start racing and will run more than the 2 Norway races on the MPS schedule '07. As far as stirring the poop goes, that was not my intention but if you feel compelled to, be my guest. I don't feel like pulling my cowboy boots out of the closet so forgive me for not joining in the fun.

Cool runnings bro.

Martin Lenick

01-25-2007, 11:43 PM

That's not of any help, other than to my point of your credibility. Can someone find the original post? Find that and hold it in contradistinction to the previous.

I don't even need new tires for this race.

Rick

01-25-2007, 11:48 PM

From what I've been told, MRP (SouthBend) actually has a joint venture with the MPS (Phil's series). So that should hopefully increase the number of competitors. I doubt that they will all run at Norway more than the two scheduled MPS events. By the way Phil, do you have the schedule?

Martin Lenick

01-25-2007, 11:54 PM

Nice try, Rick, but that post belongs under the South Bend topic (or, at least a different thread).
Are we still "racing", Phil?

Rick

01-25-2007, 11:58 PM

:confused: Martin you made me feel like this guy --->:takecover:

Martin Lenick

01-26-2007, 12:02 AM

Tim Wiggins
Brian Wiggins
Paul Dubet
Jack Costella
Chris Feurer
Dennis Dadas
David Gaber
Jerry Brown

Possibles:

David Simonar
Brad Theys

$50 to the first who can produce the entirety of the original post.

Rick

01-26-2007, 12:04 AM

I'm on it!

Rick

01-26-2007, 12:08 AM

From 2006: http://www.chicagoracers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1185&postcount=12

Yes we run the RM1 and it's actually shaping up to be the biggest class this year. At present, we have 12 RM1's. About half of them are rookies but there are some pretty quick guys in the group. If you're looking for one, I can put you in touch with a couple guys that moved up to shifters or new RM1's and are selling the ones they ran last year...price range from $3500 to $5500.

and this: http://www.chicagoracers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1848&postcount=2

Rick

The 'guy' from Peoria is Paul Doubet

You can add the following from the MPS members to your list:

Tim Wiggins (as many as he can)

Brian Wiggins (as many as he can)

Jack Costella (as many as he can)

Dennis Dadas (one or two)

Jerry Brown (one or two)

Chris Feurer (one or two)

John Schiessl (one or two)

Mark Langer (one or two)

Alex Langer (one or two)

Bill Kohlhagen (one or two)

Trevor Kohlhagen (one or two)

All the above are in RM1's.

The rest of the WI guys RM1's and a couple CRG/DD2's, will most likely only drive down for the MPS races at CHMS.

I am working on doing a race at the Autobahn Kart track in '07, if it happens, I'll try to get some of their guys to try a race at CHMS.

And here it is in it's entirety...

http://www.chicagoracers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=357

I've personally raced with at least 7 people on that list at a MPS event.

:yay::ohyes::yay::ohyes:

Rick

01-26-2007, 12:13 AM

To be honest, there are a lot (perhaps 8+) of RM1/DD2 racers who race up in Wisconsin with the Masters Pro Series on a regular basis. And those racers came down to Norway when the MPS had events there. I think there are things that aren't entirely in Phil's control that are effecting the class sizes at CHMS. Look at the CIR junior's outdoor rotax program for example. They originally tried to set it up at Norway.

MPIGP - Phillip Gordon

01-26-2007, 12:14 AM

Rick

Actually we will not be running at MRP. Garry Lobaugh would not allow the Mojo or MG tires at his track on a club day. In order to do this, we would have to rent the track for the day and since our numbers are few, that was not an option.

We will however be running with another Rotax series formed by Franklin Motorsports so we are expecting a higher kart count.

Here is the schedule:

Race 1 - May 12 - USAIR Shawano, WI

Race 2 - May 26 - RAKC (RA) Elkhart Lake, WI

Race 3 - Jun 2 - CHMS Norway, IL

Race 4 - Jun 16 - CHMS Norway, IL

Race 5 - Jun 23 - USAIR Shawano, WI

Race 6 - Jul 14 - RAKC (RA) Elkhart Lake, WI

You count your best 5 for points. Top 5 DD2's transfer to Grand Nationals.

Non-points races:

Jun 29 - Jul 1 - Grattan Raceway Belding MI with CES (road race)

Aug 3-5 Blackhawk Farms S Beloit IL with CES (road race)

Aug 31 - Sep 2 RIGP Rock Island IL

Sep 21 - 23 Sturgeon Bay Park Race (to be confirmed)

Rick

01-26-2007, 12:19 AM

Phil: What happened to the Langers?

Martin Lenick

01-26-2007, 12:32 AM

$50 goes to Rick!

Let's take half the "one or two"'s and count them as one.
Let's take half the "one or two"'s and count them as two.
As far as the "as many as he can" guys, let's count them as only a third of the season.
So far, that's at least 30 entries, not counting "the rest of the WI guys RM1's and a couple CRG/DD2's" who are only supposed to show up for the MPS races, anyway.

I'm down $50 bucks. Anyone want to bet that, aside from the MPS races, these guys don't tally 30 entries?

Heck, I said I'd make 18 and I'm already down to zero.

MPIGP - Phillip Gordon

01-26-2007, 12:39 AM

Rick

It seems like the Langers really don't like to travel too far from home. I don't believe they made it to Norway at all last year. They've raced with us at RA so they may show up for those two races.

USAIR will be hosting a 7 race Rotax series and I understand Mark Langer and Dave Simonar are heading that up. The only reason Dave may run with us is to get practice tuning and setting up his new kart for different tracks. He sold his 32mm CRG and bought a 30mm so he'll need all the practice he can get tuning the new chassis. John Schiessl, Bill and Trevor Kohlhagen I believe will support the USAIR series too but we may see them at RA just because they love that track...not to mention they're fast there.

Our 5th race at USAIR is on the same day as their series so with 3 series coming together, it should make for a good kart count in each class. It would be nice to have everyone show up for that one...15 to 20 DD2's on that track would be awesome.

Rick

01-26-2007, 12:46 AM

The Langers were at at least one of the Norway races. I have photos! I remember because that's when Vicki told me that Alex is half Thai.

Martin Lenick

01-26-2007, 12:47 AM

Rick
Actually we will not be running at MRP. Garry Lobaugh would not allow the Mojo or MG tires at his track on a club day.
Why not run their spec tire? Few among this level are running the same set in more than one event, anyway. Is this the whole story? (Carefull with your reply, it could be a loaded question.)

Rick

01-26-2007, 12:58 AM

FIRE IN THE HOLE!

So how about them Bears?!

Rick

01-26-2007, 01:14 AM

Here's the Franklin Motorsports Series off of rmaxchallenge.com

SERIES: FRANKLIN MOTORSPORTS - WI
DESCRIPTION:
Spec Fuel: VP MS 93
Spec Oil: Motul 800
Spec Tire: Mojo
Tire Compound: D1
Parc Ferme: Yes
Qualifying: Yes
Heat: Yes CONTACT INFO:
-Series/Race Director: George Sieracki
Ph#: 414-764-3519
Fax: 414-764-1514
Email (%20geo@franklinkart.com)
-Series Administrator: Charlene Sieracki
Ph#: 262-965-4812
-Tech Director: Jamie Sieracki
Ph#: 414-764-1884
Fax: 414-764-1514
Email (%20jsieracki@franklinkart.com)

Franklin Motorsports
8041 South 13th Street
Oak Creek, WI 53154
Ph#: 414-764-1884
Fax: 414-764-1514
Email: questions@franklinkart.com
Website: http://www.franklinkart.com/
RACE DATES:

5/13 Badger, Dousman - WI
5/26 Road America - WI
6/1 CHMS, Norway - IL
6/23 USA International, Shawano - WI
7/1 USA International, Shawano - WI
7/14 Road America - WI
7/15 Badger, Dousman - WI

Rick

01-26-2007, 01:15 AM

SERIES: MASTERS PRO - IL
DESCRIPTION:
Spec Fuel: Sunoco GTX 98
Spec Oil: Bombardier XPS II
Spec Tire: Mojo
Tire Compound: D1
Parc Ferme: No
Qualifying: Yes
Heat: No
CONTACT INFO:
-Series/Race Director: Phil Gordon
Ph#: 847-456-1624
Fax: 847-328-8320
Email (%20coolbreezeracer@aol.com)
-Series Administrator: Deana La Fontaine
Ph#: 616-866-5458
Email (%20deana0366@charter.net)
-Tech Director: Dave Simonar
Ph#: 920-845-2725
Fax: 920-845-5850

RACE DATES:

5/12 USAIR - Shawano, WI
5/26 RAKC - Elkhart Lake, WI
6/2 CHMS - Norway, IL
6/16 CHMS - Norway, IL
6/23 USAIR - Shawano, WI
7/14 RAKC - Elkhart Lake, WI

Rick

01-26-2007, 01:18 AM

Does this mean Stefan might be contractually obligated to run DD2 for Franklin Motorsports? :hmm:

MPIGP - Phillip Gordon

01-26-2007, 01:22 AM

Martin

The spec tire for the MPS is MG's but we decided to go with the Mojo's for the Rotax classes so the guys making a bid for the Grand Nationals would get more practice working on their setup. To throw away a weekend of practice to run on a different tire didn't make sense especially since we had other options. As for the shifter classes, I personally don't think the YHC's have enough grip for high hp karts. It creates a safety issue in my books. The faster I go, the more stopping power I want. I get that with the MG Yellows but not with the YHC's. Garry runs a first class operation at his track and although we have our differences, I was willing to put that aside and schedule a couple races there, and other than the tire issue, all was good. He was very easy to work with, but his mind is set on the tire deal and there is no changing it. I don't know what he plans on doing next year but Rotax is mandating the Mojo's in '08 so he'll either have to change his rule or drop the series. All things work together for good because with the change, all MPS races are on Saturdays which seems to be the race day of choice for our guys.

Rick

02-22-2007, 10:07 AM

MPIGP - Phillip Gordon

02-22-2007, 02:07 PM

Phil,

The Master's Pro Series actually has 2 series for the DD2 class right? There's the official Rotax class which does not require membership and runs on MOJO tires. And then there's the MPS which does require membership and runs on MG Yellows.

I plan on running the official Rotax series on MOJOs.

Rick

That is correct Rick. If you plan on running in the RMax group, only your Rotax membership and passport are required.

If you plan to race with us for points and cash prizes, you will be required to apply for an MPS membership, net cost $25, and run on MG yellows.

Rick

02-23-2007, 11:56 AM

MPIGP - Phillip Gordon

02-23-2007, 04:39 PM

Ok. I'm fully committed to racing all the races with the Rotax division of the Master Pro Series. I'm going to try to race at Norway if there's a class for me to race in. AHEEMMMM Martin :sly:.

:peace:

Glad to hear that Rick. Let me know the dates you plan to race at Norway, I'll try to make them too.