CIR Lap Records

[Rick]

IMPORTANT: Please note that the lap records are kept in the Chicago Racers Wiki

http://www.chicagoracers.com/wiki/index.php/CIR_Lap_Records

This is a thread to track the all time lap records. If you think you have a record, post the following information:

1. Your name
2. Please post the kart number if you remember it
3. Track
4. Direction
5. Your weight that day
6. Lap Time
7. A link to the online timing/scoring page

The weights will be in 10 lb increments. A fast time for a driver who weights 165 lbs is in the 160lbs to 169lbs range.

[Rick]

Rick Apichairuk - Kart 39 - Track 1 - Clockwise - 165lbs -14.44 - oskar (http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/%28S%28b1hbe1zt3g0rn4550vc1ds45%29%29/Race.aspx?RaceId=101586&Center=cir)

If any of you guys know of any of the other lap records, please let me know and I'll post them up. I'm sure Peter, Martin, Dave and Stefan have a ton of record times.

[Adam Andrea]

Adam Andrea - Kart 27 - Track 1 - Clockwise - 170lbs -14.37
http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(m0vcrg554xfbsc55popsrtz5))/Race.aspx?center=cir&RaceId=100587 (http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/%28S%28m0vcrg554xfbsc55popsrtz5%29%29/Race.aspx?center=cir&RaceId=100587)

James Burns' first 11 laps in that race were actually my times.

Elliot Fridonio has done a 14.14 counter-clockwise (I don't know if that was a 9hp kart or not, though).

[peterjank]

Track 1 - clockwise - 14.49 - 190 pounds - 2/18/07 - kart #4 (I think)

Track5 - counterclockwise - 27.81 - 190 pounds - 2/4/07 - one of the new karts, don't remember the number

Sorry I can't figure out how to post links to the timesheets on CIR's web-site

[Adam Andrea]

Sorry I can't figure out how to post links to the timesheets on CIR's web-site
You have to right-click -> properties on the inset part of the page (the part with its own scroll bars) to get the address. For some reason this works in IE but not FireFox.

[Rick]

Peter: Just highlight the entire URL (in the address bar at the top of your browser) and copy it and then paste it into the post. I added your lap records to the first post. I went ahead and added the oskar links for you.

[Rick]

Doesn't Martin have the record for Track 2?

[Martin Lenick]

Doesn't Martin have the record for Track 2?

I think Mark Hirt beat me. I don't remember what mine was, I think 14.96 CCW. Pretty sure Mark beat that, and with at least 60 or 80 more pounds.:)

[Rick]

I think someone just smashed the track record for Track 1.

http://www.chicagoindoorracing.com/toptrack11month.asp (http://www.chicagoindoorracing.com/toptrack11week.asp)

14.28 - wow.

Adam, you beat Tobi. I guess SlimFast works eh!? =)

Looks like Mark had a 14.88 on T2 (direction unknown). Which direction (CW or CCW) is faster on T2?

[CIR-Reed]

Mark did his 14.88 on T2 Counter clockwise.

Elliot did a 29.34 with an average of 29.58 on T3. I will post a link as son as I can find it. Elliot weighs 155.

Andrew Palmer did a 27.26 on T5 during an Ironman and I think that is a record on T5. Andrew Palmer weighs 100 pounds and had 30 pounds of lead on his kart for this race. So call it 130 for this race.

Keith Harris did a 14.13 on T1 Counter Clockwise without weight on his kart. He weighs 95 pounds.

Elliot also did a 14.13 on T1 Counter Clockwise and he weighs 155.

Robert Zirves did a 14.19 on T1 Counter Clockwise and he weighs 170 pounds.

I did a 29.62 in the 9hp kart on T3 and I weigh 270 pounds. That was my 5th race in it so I should get faster.

John Oliver did a 29.52 on T3 and he weighs 190 pounds.

I am not sure what the record is clockwise on T3. I think Zak Hansen did a 29.6x. I can't find it in his records though (it takes time to look through hundreds of races).

That is all I can think of for now.

[Rick]

Mark did his 14.88 on T2 Counter clockwise.

Elliot did a 29.34 with an average of 29.58 on T3. I will post a link as son as I can find it. Elliot weighs 155.

Andrew Palmer did a 27.26 on T5 during an Ironman and I think that is a record on T5. Andrew Palmer weighs 100 pounds and had 30 pounds of lead on his kart for this race. So call it 130 for this race.

Keith Harris did a 14.13 on T1 Counter Clockwise without weight on his kart. He weighs 95 pounds.

Elliot also did a 14.13 on T1 Counter Clockwise and he weighs 155.

Robert Zirves did a 14.19 on T1 Counter Clockwise and he weighs 170 pounds.

I did a 29.62 in the 9hp kart on T3 and I weigh 270 pounds. That was my 5th race in it so I should get faster.

John Oliver did a 29.52 on T3 and he weighs 190 pounds.

I am not sure what the record is clockwise on T3. I think Zak Hansen did a 29.6x. I can't find it in his records though (it takes time to look through hundreds of races).

That is all I can think of for now.

Which direction?

[Mark Hirt]

Mark did his 14.88 on T2 Counter clockwise.

I did a 15.07 Clockwise on Track 2 last week. There was more time out there but I only had one or three clean laps. (10 driver arrive and drive)

The 14.88 and 15.07 were with me at like 205

I'm not very fast on T1, probably because I HATE it

T3 best 29.98, a long time ago but I did 3 98's in a row, not bad for an old fat guy.

[Adam Andrea]

Adam, you beat Tobi. I guess SlimFast works eh!? =)

The difference between 180lbs and 165lbs is unbelievable. It feels like I'm cheating when I drive. I've only done 4 races (arrive and drive) at 165 lbs so far. Out of the 3 races where I had clear laps, I did a 14.37, 14.41, and 14.44 as my best times (clockwise). I would have been satisfied with those lap times going counter-clockwise at 180lbs.

I can stay at 165 pretty comfortably, but I think dropping any lower is going to mean mass amounts of running, which I am not inclined to do in this weather. I'll probably do it if I buy a kart for outdoor racing, though.

[Rick]

You should really try to get down to 110 lbs to really maximize your speed. :)

[peterjank]

I ran a 14.29 on Track 1 counter-clockwise at 190 pounds last night. Don't remember what the kart number was, but it was one of the new frames. I believe I ran 14.30 in two other races as well. I love how the karts with the new frames turn.

http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(h4s0yr45qk0nmt451gqxeb55))/Race.aspx?RaceId=102086&Center=cir

[Rick]

How much does Gordon weigh?

[peterjank]

I think somewhere between 150 and 160. I will send him an e-mail and find out.

[Adam Andrea]

edit - woops, you already got it

[Rick]

170 lbs? I thought you were 165 lbs. Time to call Jenny.

Friends don't let friends get fat and therefore lose precious tenths off of there times.

[Rick]

Ahemm... What happened to the notification system where one notifies the other members when he/she is going to be at CIR. :disappointed:

[peterjank]

Gordon is 165 pounds.

[Rick]

I hit a 28.33 (in kart #34 @ 185+ lbs) in the last 200 Lap Enduro. Not anywhere near your record time Peter. :disappointed: The new karts are SO much faster. One of the guys in LAPS inc. was driving #39 and just pulled on me on every straight. It was very noticeable.

[peterjank]

Kart #40 also appeared to be very fast. The guy driving it appeared to weigh 220 to 240 pounds. He would get it all sideways in the turns and still pull me down the straight. Fortunately, he was a gentleman and eventually waived me through.

[CIR-Reed]

All of the track 3 times that I mentioned are counter clockwise times. If memory serves me correctly Zak Hansen has the Clockwise record weighing 140 pounds with a 29.62.

[Adam Andrea]

Track 5 (ccw): 27.78 seconds
Kart 27
190 lbs (165+25)


http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(i5h1gg45cmole3avrm44ldnk))/Race.aspx?RaceId=101048&Center=cir

[Rick]

Track 5 (ccw): 27.78 seconds
Kart 27
190 lbs (165+25)


http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(i5h1gg45cmole3avrm44ldnk))/Race.aspx?RaceId=101048&Center=cir (http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/%28S%28i5h1gg45cmole3avrm44ldnk%29%29/Race.aspx?RaceId=101048&Center=cir)


You just bumped Peter out of his 190 lb record.

Peter Jankovskis - Kart? - Track 5 - Counter Clockwise - 190lbs - 27.81 - oskar (http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/%28S%283mgqi445sd0244qr2cetej55%29%29/Race.aspx?RaceId=100421&Center=cir)

[CIR-Reed]

Andy Dunne apparently did a 14.09 second lap time counter clockwise on track 1 last night. I think he weighs 110.

[peterjank]

Peter Jankovskis, Track #2, clockwise, 3/5/07, kart #40, 188 pounds, 15.01

http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(hqr2pc45omhtwn2xbvdj2u55))/Race.aspx?RaceId=103132&Center=cir

[CIR-enBAUMlmer]

I feel happy that i pulled a 28.76 with the 9hp ccw on T5 on the 25th of feb. I'm also a little heavier than all of you.

[Rick]

I feel happy that i pulled a 28.76 with the 9hp ccw on T5 on the 25th of feb. I'm also a little heavier than all of you.

Who are you and how much do you weigh?

[CIR-enBAUMlmer]

I'm that Big CTO with the long hair at CIR. I'm 6'4" 310lbs. My name is Nick, but if you'd like just call me Baumer.

[Martin Lenick]

I'm that Big CTO with the long hair at CIR. I'm 6'4" 310lbs. My name is Nick, but if you'd like just call me Baumer.

Awesome!

Rick needs to buy a few more weight-belts.

[CIR-enBAUMlmer]

I believe it was last Saturday when Rick was racing, last name Apachairuk (forgive my spelling if that is wrong). We were pretty busy on both tracks and he was on track 2 with a full field of racers. And these were not veterans, i felt really bad for him because he was getting knocked around so much. I wanted to say sorry to him after he was done but he left really quick and looked angry.

[Martin Lenick]

:rofl::rofl:He came to T4 in a cold-sweat. We can all be thankful he checked his weapons at the door.

Don't be sorry for us; just give us free laps.

[Martin Lenick]

By the way, who has the helmet-toss distance record? Erjon?:)

[CIR-enBAUMlmer]

I've never seen someone toss a helmet more than five feet. But i have seen a lot of people toss their cookies into the helmet. One guy pulled into pits, didnt even get up and ralphed in his helmet, just sitting there in the cart. It was horrible.

[peterjank]

I would guess Brian Zirves or Matt Kamrad on the helmet toss.

[Adam Andrea]

It was horrible.
That depends on your perspective.

Perspective of the guy who puked: Horrible
Perspective of CIR Employee: Horrible
My perspective: Hilarious

[CIR-Reed]

Brian Zirves is still the only person to throw their helmet, then pick it up, then throw it again.

As far as distance is concerned Brians helmet completed two trips across the locker room. Kamrad's helmet made it from the pits to the soda machines. Probably nearly equivelant.

On the subject of track records, Elliot did a 13.98 on track 1 counter clockwise in a 6.5hp.

John Oliver did a 28.85 on T3 counter clockwise in the 9hp.

[Adam Andrea]

Track 1 CCW, kart 4, 14.13, 170 lbs

http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(0xwbj255ma30kp55wuih5355))/Race.aspx?center=cir&RaceId=103379

[Rick]

Adam: You just knocked out Robert Zirves from the 170 lbs spot.

Robert Zirves - Kart ? - Track 1 - Counter Clockwise - 170 lbs - 14.19 - oskar?

[Rick]

Dave Mickelson posted a 29.60 last night on T3 CCW. I posted a 29.61. :disappointed:

[Adam Andrea]

Track 2 CCW, Kart 99 (9hp), 14.60 seconds
170 lbs
http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(sjvd25qof4jwya55ya1zi1m5))/Race.aspx?center=cir&RaceId=103909

[Adam Andrea]

Unfortunately, I forgot to try doing cheater laps.
:(

[Vic]

Unfortunately, I forgot to try doing cheater laps.
:(

Cheater laps? Please explain! me=noob :p

[Adam Andrea]

:disappointed:

I have to get permission from Mark and Martin before I reveal the secret.

[Rick]

You drive one lap to optimize your speed, which in turn ruins your chances of getting a good lap time on the next lap.

[Martin Lenick]

:disappointed:

I have to get permission from Mark and Martin before I reveal the secret.


Adam, my friend, are you implying that Mr. Hirt and I cheat? Gee willikers... I have no idea what you're talking about. :drinking:Stunning times you turned on real laps.

[Adam Andrea]

Adam, my friend, are you implying that Mr. Hirt and I cheat? Gee willikers... I have no idea what you're talking about. :drinking:Stunning times you turned on real laps.
Keep in mind it was the 9hp kart...

[peterjank]

Peter Jankovskis, 186 pounds, 14.96, track 2 clockwise, kart #4

http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(nioaxijgqarqvq3vmkfoky55))/Race.aspx?RaceId=104258&Center=cir

[Rick]

Ryan Osiecki just submitted 2 lap records for 165lbs on T2. :peace:

[Mark Hirt]

14.82
Track 2 Clockwise
Kart 36

O 205 pounds

[Rick]

14.82
Track 2 Clockwise
Kart 36

O 205 pounds

WOW. That's the overall record!!! I did see it was a "cheater lap"... but still.. that's some extremely good driving. I guess weight doesn't really have an effect after all. :grinno:

[Mark Hirt]

Thank you but last time I checked it's extremely hard to do a so called "cheat lap" going clockwise, feel free to try.

An "arrive and drive" and drive is not a race, it's Qualifying. In Qualifying the best lap time wins!

Cheating is altering the kart in some way to make it faster or handle better.

[sickmint79]

what is a "cheater lap" ?

[Rick]

A "cheater lap" (as Mark and Martin refer to it) is when you alter your line in such a way that you are giving up the optimal line on one lap in order to optimize the lap time of a immediately preceding or following lap. This is done in contrast to sticking with the racing line and trying to drive the fastest lap each and every lap like you would in a real race.

A "cheater lap" is not really cheating at all. But that's the term Martin and Mark have used in the past to describe it. The laps where you alter your line to optimize the cheater laps usually result in slower times. Those laps are referred to as "throw-away laps". Until someone comes up with a more favorable name, I guess that we're stuck "cheater lap". May be we can change it to "optimized single lap".

Mark: The only reason I thought it was a cheater lap is that the immediately preceding lap you were in the 15s while you were on the track by yourself. I didn't mean to imply that you did anything under handed or unsportsmanlike to get that lap. I'm just using the term that I've heard everyone, including yourself, call those kind of laps. :peace:

Either way... cheater lap or not cheater lap, that is an amazingly fast time for 205lbs.

[Mark Hirt]

Mark: The only reason I thought it was a cheater lap is that the immediately preceding lap you were in the 15s while you were on the track by yourself

Actually it's the lap after that is the tell

On lap 19 I took a break (I'm 49 ya know), on 20 I noticed the next lap was the white, tested something in the big sweeper and went maximum attack for the final lap.

lap 13 was a little slow (after my 14.89) cause I saw the 14:?? backwards in the screen and was too happy to care about that lap anymore

[sickmint79]

haha.

well that is interesting, never thought about that!

[Rick]

Actually it's the lap after that is the tell

On lap 19 I took a break (I'm 49 ya know), on 20 I noticed the next lap was the white, tested something in the big sweeper and went maximum attack for the final lap.

lap 13 was a little slow (after my 14.89) cause I saw the 14:?? backwards in the screen and was too happy to care about that lap anymore

So Mark... I heard some interesting things from the track staff about your lap record today. :whistle:

[peterjank]

Peter Jankovskis, kart #40, 188 lbs., track 5 clockwise, 4/9/07, 28.21

http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(fnkypxy1okmosanto5zr5n55))/Race.aspx?RaceId=106097&Center=cir

Peter Jankovskis, kart #99 (9hp), 188 lbs., track 2 counter-clockwise, 4/14/07, 14.58

http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(fnkypxy1okmosanto5zr5n55))/Race.aspx?RaceId=106585&Center=cir

[Rick]

Track 1 Lap Records updated with Peter, Mark and my lap records posted at the SCCA event.

Also updated with records from most recent IronMan race.

[HenryK]

1. Henry Khais
2. Kart #27
3. Track 1
4. Counter-Clockwise
5. 140
6. 14.39
http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(rlzkyvv3l1cu5355mby20hfh))/Race.aspx?RaceId=108622&Center=cir

1. Henry Khais
2. Kart #27
3. Track 2
4. Counter-Clockwise
5. 140
6. 15.16
http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(rlzkyvv3l1cu5355mby20hfh))/Race.aspx?RaceId=108619&Center=cir

I'm new here, and I actually just started karting couple days ago. I just got a job at CIR and have raced a few times, here is a list of all my races so far:
http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(rlzkyvv3l1cu5355mby20hfh))/Races.aspx?MemberId=c0676a2e-7a78-4267-9fda-9435d8967ca6

My goal is to pull a 13.9 on Track 1 CC sometime this summer hopefully.

[Rick]

Welcome to ChicagoRacers Henry!

I added your lap records to the list.

http://www.chicagoracers.com/wiki/index.php/CIR_Lap_Records

[CIR-enBAUMlmer]

Oh Henry, you're working at CIR for no more than a week and you think you are hot poopy? Just wait till i bust out the text book to whoop your butt.

[Martin Lenick]

:kungfu::kungfu: Employee Racing night looks like it's going to be interesting. :kungfu::kungfu:

[HenryK]

I guess I should update. My T2 time is getting faster, and I know exactly how to make it much faster, now I just need to find a day when there are open Arrive and Drives for T2. In the mean time though, I atleast broke into the 14s going counter:
1. Henry Khais
2. Kart #??
3. Track 2
4. Counter-Clockwise
5. 140 lbs
6. 14.97
http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(bwsodw55beb2i0bdhef3gk55))/Race.aspx?RaceId=111805&Center=cir

Yeah it still sucks, but I know exactly what I was doing wrong, and I know how to correct it.


Um, I also did track 5 a couple of times going clockwise. I only ran it a few times and was my first time on that track, so my time isnt to good:
1. Henry Khais
2. Kart #??
3. Track 5
4. Clockwise
5. 140 lbs
6. 28.74
http://scores.oskarsystems.com/cir/(S(bwsodw55beb2i0bdhef3gk55))/Race.aspx?RaceId=109941&Center=cir