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peterjank
02-19-2006, 08:58 AM
Hi all,

I flew out to Phoenix yesterday to try out the F1RaceFactory. I was very favorably impressed. Both tracks at the facility are extremely wide and flow well.

The surface is concrete and offers grip similar to CIR. I didn't have any problems getting the karts to turn or stop. One big difference is the walls. The bumpers at the apex points have very little give. You can't drive through them like you can at CIR. They also use a different style wall at the corner exit and along the straightaways. The walls at those points have a curve to them where they meet the ground, similar to the concrete dividers on the expressway. You can run-up on them a little bit but it seems to slow the kart down.

The karts are considerably wider than we run at CIR because the engine sits on your right side rather than behind you. They use 9hp engines and have better acceleration then our CIR karts. As a result, they require a little more finesse on the throttle coming out of slower corners. You also don't want to use the gas and brake together very much. The 9hp engine can really heat up the brakes in a hurry.

The F1 karts have seatbelts and a big rollbar on the back - something I am very grateful we don't have at CIR. Getting the belts on and off was a real nuisance. I also ended up hitting my helmet pretty hard on the roll bar when a backmarker I was passing squeezed me into the wall unintentionally in my final race of the day.

They are a bit more relaxed regarding a few things. For example, they did not make we watch a safety video. They definitely have a safety video, because I heard some people talking about it. However, they may have given me a pass because I showed up with a gear bag and mentioned I was there to practice for the IKWC. The track also has a rack of loaner suits but doesn't seem to require people to wear them. Most people were racing in their street clothes.

Martin will appreciate the pricing structure. If you buy an annual license (for $20), you can buy an all-day pass (for $75) that gives you unlimited races for the day. They try to run the races every 15 minutes, so 4 races per hour instead of the 5 we can usually get at CIR. I ran 12 races in 3.75 hours.

Races are 20 laps long. A good lap on track 2 is in the upper 23's. A good lap on track 1 is in the mid to upper 22's. Track 2 is fairly wide open and flowing, while track 1 is more technical - the reverse of what we have at CIR.

I ran my first 11 races on track 2 starting with a best lap of 34.35 and eventually getting down to a 23.78. I ran my only race on track 1 at the end of my day and had a best lap of 23 flat.

By the way, they use Oskar to time laps and print out result sheets. One thing I liked was that the printer for the result sheets was located much closer to the tracks then at CIR. You didn't need to walk all the way out to the reception desk to pick up results. I finished the day with a pro-score of 157.

I'm planning on going back for some more practice prior to the IKWC, probably in mid-April or mid-July.

rct25
02-19-2006, 10:18 AM
Peter,

Thanks for info.
What about the general condition of the karts? Tires? chassis?
Are they in good shape like the ones at CIR? Do they take care of them?

Roberto

peterjank
02-19-2006, 11:02 AM
Hi Roberto,

The karts were in excellent condition, very clean and fairly equal in performance. I think I drove 5 or 6 different karts during the day. Power was good on all of them. The steering was a bit floaty on one of the karts (very light steering effort and a little understeer), but they otherwise handled equally well.

The brakes went a little soft during one of my sessions but I think that had more to do with the other drivers than an inherent weakness of the kart. Some of the drivers in that session were racing each other pretty hard and swerving all over the road in an unpredictable fashion. I had to get on the brakes real hard a number of times in odd locations to avoid contact as I was lapping them.

The tires looked to be in good shape on all of the karts. No flat spots or other unusual wear that I could see or feel. I think they were using Bridgestones.

peterjank
02-19-2006, 11:07 AM
One thing I forgot to mention in my initial post. I didn't see any seat inserts or pedal extensions at trackside for smaller drivers.

They may not be necessary because the seats in the karts are on adjustable racks similar to what you find on passenger cars. It may also be that they have seat inserts but I simply didn't see them or they are tucked away somewhere.

rct25
02-19-2006, 01:10 PM
Peter,

That is good to hear!!
Thanks for the feedback.
See you Friday for the Zirves GP. :4:

Regards,

Roberto

peterjank
02-19-2006, 04:05 PM
See you then. Will Dave and Paul be racing with you?

rct25
02-19-2006, 04:41 PM
yes, it will be the usual CHR team.
See you Friday.
Roberto

MotoBob
05-26-2008, 12:39 PM
The karts were in excellent condition, very clean and fairly equal in performance.

Hello everyone. I visited F1 Race Factory in Phoenix yesterday. My how things have changed...

First off the safety procedures were sketchy…People in shorts and sandals, missing flagmen and workers. If there was a crash the start/finish guy would have to run all the way across the track…Karts moving in the pits with people walking around.

The all day pass is a great barging. It was $75 plus the membership $20. They would only allow you to sign up for 3 at a time. They assigned me the first 3. They were every 30 minutes. I realized the races were every 15 so my next three I signed up for back to back. I had to wait an hour for the next available set. I did 15 races until they were pretty much out of karts.

There were only 5-6 functioning karts on track 2. I use the term functioning loosely. I had one kart that not only would almost come to a complete stop when turning right but the steering wheel was coming off. I tried to tighten the bolts with my fingers. I told the staff after the race and they were like yea, okay, great. Next! I found two karts that were working well. The difference between those two and the rest was about 1 second. I ran 23.5 to 23.6 in those two. It was Sunday and good enough for top 5 of the week. The karts were very dirty and oily.

They allow racers 3 alcoholic drinks while racing! Dumb! You know how most A&D people drive as it is!!!

They use OSKAR & you can see your times online, but no “Best of the Week/Month”.

The barriers were terrible. They were old tires with a thin plastic strip. I saw two people hit the wall hard enough they got stuck under it. The common impact points were worn through. I tapped the wall at an exit point and the plastic strip was separated there. It grabbed the kart and would have ejected me if I was not wearing a seat belt. They no longer have the run up strip Peter J mentioned.

In conclusion…nice facility, good bargain. Desperately in need new karts and better barriers. Better safety procedures would be a plus as well.

MotoBob out!

peterjank
05-26-2008, 04:54 PM
Hi Bob,

Sounds like the track continues to go down hill. When Elliot Fridono, Chris Lupo and I ran the world indoor championship there in 2007, they were struggling to keep 12 decent karts on the track. Chris actually had a rear wheel come off his kart in one of the races.