24 Hours of Lemons [Archive] - Page 2

CIR-Reed

09-19-2007, 03:19 PM

Whats our official team name again?

Rick - You will probably not have the core until Friday night after we install the new peice. I did the same thing with the brake calipers, you just take the old ones back and they give you the money.

Peter - I should have the radios on Friday. I will not have the car harness yet though. It will be the IMSA plug for sure.

Martin - I talked to Larry today and he is going to put the car harness, PTT, and charger on with your bill for your helmet Mic. I also talked to Mike at Razor Image and he is going to have your helmet done early next week and when either your or me goes to get it from him he will have all the radio stuff from Larry as well.

Jim - I will fax my form in today.

JAYKAY

09-19-2007, 03:29 PM

Hey Reed, Sounds good. Jason and I spent some time on the car last night and have most of the fuel system ready to go. My order from Pegasus will be here today so that should take care of the parts for the fuel system. I do need to find a couple of grommets for where the rubber lines go through the floor, but we are close. We also put the two fans together and started the wiring. We should be able to wrap that up on Friday with no problem.

Jim

edit: We are "Good Grief Team Locust"

peterjank

09-20-2007, 11:46 AM

I faxed in my driver form this morning. See you guys Friday night. I plan on arriving between 6:15 and 6:30.

Rick

09-20-2007, 11:53 AM

I'll try to be there around the same time. I might carpool up there with Jim.

Reed: A friend of mine will be visiting from out of town, is it ok if I bring him?
I promise we won't punt anyone in your neighborhood. :redface:

CIR-Reed

09-20-2007, 12:17 PM

No problem at all as long as they buy the pizza :)

peterjank

09-20-2007, 01:49 PM

I could pick up pizza for everyone as I drive in.

Reed, do you have a recommendation of a pizza place along the road in that I could phone and pickup the order?

pmpnuss

09-20-2007, 04:23 PM

The tires are mounted and ballanced I could drop them off on friday. I will need directions though. Let rick know he has my cell number.

Rick

09-20-2007, 04:36 PM

Thanks Victor! That will save me time from having to go pick them up. I'll send you Reed's address in a PM. Everyone is planning on being there at 6pm.

pmpnuss

09-20-2007, 09:23 PM

i get off at 5. I will leave from work. see you all ther do i need to bring any tools?

peterjank

09-21-2007, 08:12 AM

Victor,

You could just drop the tires at my house in Lisle. I will be hauling the tires along with the car to the race next Friday.

My address is 1713 Lacey Ave. in Lisle. Just head East on Ogden until you reach the traffice light at Yackley (there will be Shell and Mobil gas stations to your right and a Family Video to your left at the intersection). Turn left at Yackley. The first cross street you come to on the right hand side of the road is Lacey. Take a right on Lacey. After going through two stop signs, look for a large brick mailbox on the right. That will be my house.

The side of my garage has a gated side yard where I keep my truck and trailer. You could just stack the tires in the side yard behind the gate.

CIR-Reed

09-21-2007, 11:01 AM

Peter - We will worry about the pizza when everybody arrives. There is one place that makes excellent pizza and is quite close. Either we can run over and pick it up or have it delivered and give good directions to the delivery guy.

peterjank

09-21-2007, 12:09 PM

Sounds good. See you no later than 6:30.

pmpnuss

09-21-2007, 01:06 PM

Ill take 4 tires that way we can put them on the car. Ill drop the other 2 off at your house next week.

peterjank

09-21-2007, 01:16 PM

Works for me on the tires!

Clueless 1

09-21-2007, 01:27 PM

Seat is REWELDED and REINSTALLED. a lot of work for 1". Who ordered the roll bar pading

CIR-Reed

09-21-2007, 01:33 PM

Martin, before you flame him to death and then have a stress related heart attack:

"Clueless 1" is my dad.

peterjank

09-21-2007, 01:37 PM

I have some rollbar padding (about 8 feet total) at my house. I can bring it with me tonight.

Rick, many thanks for the help on the cage and the seat.

Clueless 1

09-21-2007, 01:52 PM

Proly four feet would do it Peter.

Go ahead Martin, If it feels good, what the heck, I:takecover: can take it.

JAYKAY

09-21-2007, 01:59 PM

I was able to get the connectors, fuse holder and wire to get the fans and pump wrapped up but I struck out looking for rubber grommets to pad the fuel lines where they go through the floor. Any suggestions?

Jim

pmpnuss

09-21-2007, 02:08 PM

What size grommets do you need? I have acouple. what else is needed for the car ill see if i can get it or have it.

Rick

09-22-2007, 07:06 PM

Where's Martin?!? And where is his nomex suit?

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Rick

09-23-2007, 08:39 PM

Well I tried to teach Martin how to heel toe today and I let him practice in my Exige S in the Autobahn parking lot before the kart race. And then after the kart race, I let him try driving the car on the track on the south track. That was fun, entertaining and scary. I think Martin can "heel toe" now.

I unintentionally spun the car 180 and then went backwards for about 100 ft and then intentionally spun it back 180. That was weird.

Autobahn only carries karting suits so Martin still doesn't have a nomex suit.

pmpnuss

09-24-2007, 08:02 AM

I would like to know about travel arraingments that everybody has made when are people leave to the race and when are they returning? were are they staying? Is any body bringing food besides beer?

peterjank

09-24-2007, 10:36 AM

If the car is ready to go by Thursday, I would like to pick it up and load it in my trailer Thursday evening. My hope is to leave early Friday morning with trailer in tow and arrive at the track in the early afternoon.

My understanding is that everyone else will be heading up in a motorhome sometime on Friday.

pmpnuss

09-24-2007, 11:19 AM

Unfortunatly I can't get out of work. I will be leaveing friday evening or saturday early morning. If any else is interested in car pooling let me know. Is everyone going to sleep in the trailer? that might be tuff.

pmpnuss

09-24-2007, 11:20 AM

also what still needs to be done to the car? Anything that i can do to help let me know.

Rick

09-24-2007, 11:21 AM

I would like to know about travel arraingments that everybody has made when are people leave to the race and when are they returning? were are they staying? Is any body bringing food besides beer?

All the drivers are staying in the RV and there should be room for crew members as well. I'm not sure, but ask Reed about it.

I think Jim is going to bring a small grill. I guess everyone should just bring some meats and bread.

peterjank

09-24-2007, 11:31 AM

Victor,

I'm not sure exactly what remains do be done on the car at this point.

I think the new steering rack is in place, but Jim was looking for some advice from you on completing connections of some of the steering rack components.

We did succeed in mounting the dry brake to the car, but the fuel hose from the brake to the tank seemed to have a permanent kink in it. Jim was working on that issue as well.

pmpnuss

09-24-2007, 11:32 AM

sounds good what tools are people bringing? I will bring what i can. Is the car driveable?

CIR-Reed

09-24-2007, 01:17 PM

My dad figured out a cool trick to keep the fuel filler hose from collapsing.

That car is not driveable yet. Jim ordered the tie rod ends and they should arrive on Wednesday. I will pick them up on wednesday and hopefully install them early Thursday morning. Once those are on the car should be driveable and Peter should be able to pick it up on Thursday evening.

The camper I got is has the layout that will sleep the most people possible. I think the paperwork said it will sleep 10. I think it sleeps ten if 4 of them really like each other. I am pretty comfortable with myself and if somebody ends up sleeping in close proximity to me (other than Marty) I don't have any issue with that. I shouldn't be any problem at all to sleep everybody in the camper. I think the only time we will all be sleeping at once will be Friday night anyway.

pmpnuss

09-25-2007, 10:22 AM

:evil_lol: ITS ALIVE ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! We started it yesterday and it ran! we will be there wednesday to run all the fixes through it and to hopefully finish the suspension. The ball joints have been welded and the power steering rack is in.

Clueless 1

09-25-2007, 10:53 AM

sounds good what tools are people bringing? I will bring what i can. Is the car driveable?

I made an Excell spread sheet of things to bring but I don't know how to attach it. This site calls it an invalid file.

Rick

09-25-2007, 10:55 AM

I made an Excell spread sheet of things to bring but I don't know how to attach it. This site calls it an invalid file.

Zip (compression utility (http://www.winzip.com/index.htm)) the file and then upload it.

Clueless 1

09-25-2007, 11:03 AM

I think I've attached a list of nice things to bring. Oh yeah, I'm a big computor guy....I now know how to zip......

pmpnuss

09-25-2007, 11:07 AM

Cant open it im at work i dont have spread sheet on this turd. Are there any specialty tool that i should bring stuff that you guyz wouldnt have?

Rick

09-25-2007, 11:10 AM

Here's the list:

AIR TANK
ELECTRICAL TAPE
DUCK TAPE
TOOL BOX
sae and metric sockets / wrenches,
hammers,
saws,
screw drivers,
brake bleeder bottle,
bleeder tubing,
torque wrench,
wire cripper tool,
flash lites,
large pry bar,
sledge hammer,
TIMERS
JACK
JACK STANDS
TWO CHAIRS
TABLE
RADIOS
CHARGERS
BATTERY
DRILL AND CHARGER
WATER
OIL
BRAKE FLUID
ANTIFREEZE
TIRE PRESS GA
LATEX GLOVES
WORK GLOVES
CLIP BOARD
CAMERAS
DIGITAL VIDEO CAMERA
MULTIMETER
FUEL
FUEL TRANSFER PUMP
TIRES
SEAT PAD
UMBRELLA
DRILL BITS
FLASH LITES
SPEED SCREWS - ASSORTMENT
FUEL LINE
SPARE DRIVE BELTS
ELECTRIC CRIMP TERMINAL ASSORTMENT
SPARE LUG NUTS
PIT FIRE EXTINGUISHER
PIT BOARD AND DRY ERASE MARKERS
SPARE FUSES
RAGS
HAND CLEANER
WASTE OIL BUCKET
TARPS
FOOD
SODA
HELMETS
SUIT
GLOVES
SHOES
CASH
COOLER
JOHNNIE WALKER

I really like the last item on the list.

Clueless 1

09-25-2007, 11:36 AM

Also, somebody or somebodies should have bright orange or flourescent shirts to wear or a big flag or something. I've seen situations where it gets very busy in the pit or paddock area and the adrenaline soaked driver flys right by the pit looking for his people.

Also, possible rain on Sat/Sun......rain gear, rainx, a pop up canopy, might make things more tolerable if it rains.

Also, Johnnie Walker might help if things go way wrong.....or way right.

Also, the charge for destroying my garage with that greasy shi_box is:
1. TMI sticker prominently displayed on the car
2. Hourly call to my cell phone with updates 847-343-1648.
3. You must win.

The neighbors think I've started a junk yard at my house. I'm sending all my tools out to be steamed, degreased and disinfected..........and I remember Reed saying, "would it be ok if we kept the Lemons car at your house for a couple of days untill the race?"......there was definetly no mention of strange young men wielding sledge hammers at two in the morning!!

Clueless 1

09-25-2007, 11:43 AM

list of drivers names?
I can shoot over to the local graphics shop and matbe get them to make some cheap stickers

Rick

09-25-2007, 12:06 PM

list of drivers names?
I can shoot over to the local graphics shop and matbe get them to make some cheap stickers

Jim Koller - driver
Martin Lenick - driver
Peter Jankovskis - driver
Reed Bartuska - driver
Rick Apichairuk - driver

Victor Vazquez - Mechanic/crew
Kent Byers - Mechanic/crew
Jason Staraitis - Mechanic/crew

pmpnuss

09-25-2007, 12:42 PM

Victor VaZqueZ its ok everybopdy makes that mistake.

JAYKAY

09-25-2007, 01:25 PM

Victor Vasquez - Mechanic
Kent ? - crew
Jason ? - crew

Kent Byers
Jason Staraitis

peterjank

09-25-2007, 03:05 PM

Rick,
Many thanks for letting us abuse your garage and tools. We'll definitely keep you informed as the race progresses. If they have decent cell coverage, we can even provide updates to chicagoracers. I plan on bringing my laptop and wireless modem.

I have a 10x20 Ez-up canopy that I plan on bringing along in the back of my truck.

I also have a pit-board and can bring along the airtank, wrench and socket sets that I have.

Rick

09-25-2007, 04:37 PM

RV Departure Time

As far as I know, the RV will pick everyone up at CIR. I vote the RV departs from CIR around 6pm so everyone can get there in time. Jim and Victor might have to work until 5pm so that means they won't be able to get there until 6pm.

pmpnuss

09-25-2007, 09:50 PM

Is everybody going to leave there cars at CIR? If so then some one can pick me up at work I could just leave from work.

Rick

09-25-2007, 10:58 PM

I can pick you up from work if Jim can't.

pmpnuss

09-26-2007, 10:02 AM

I was hoping to go work on the car tonight and hopefully have it on the road. Is that possible?

Rick

09-26-2007, 10:18 AM

I talked to Jim last night and he said that he's planning on going to work on the car tonight. I also plan on being there.

j oyen

09-26-2007, 10:21 AM

Good luck to all of you guys. I want to see you bring home 1st. If you don't it won't be from a lack of effort!!

Give m hell and have fun!

John

peterjank

09-26-2007, 11:10 AM

Thanks for the good wishes John. We will give it our best.

Rick

09-26-2007, 11:49 AM

Thanks John!

Martin's helmet is ready and scheduled to be picked up today.

What time are we meeting to work on the car today? I will be picking up some of the stickers today. Jen's not sure if the Lotus Good Grief logos will be ready by then so someone might have to pick those up tomorrow.

pmpnuss

09-26-2007, 11:50 AM

I can get there around 6 and 6:30 I will bring the fluidds so we can finish that part

CIR-Reed

09-26-2007, 12:37 PM

We can pick up the RV at 2:00 pm. I was planning on picking it up with Martin right at 2:00 and driving to the nearest grocery store to get some food and gatorade and things. I was hoping the most of the people could get out of work early on friday to leave around 3 or something. Jim has already mentioned that he might ride with Peter and leave earlier in the day. That just leaves Victor, Rick, Martin, and myself (I am assuming Kent and Jason will go with Jim) and Kent and Jason if they aren't riding with Jim. We could leave here around 3 and be sitting in the fancy cars at Victors work by about 4 waiting for him to get off of work. If that isn't possible I am good to leave whenever. I am working tonight and won't be able to make it to work on the car. The rod ends are sitting on the counter in the shop. I picked them up and dropped them off. I also disconnected the throttle cable and lubricated it with some 3 in 1 oil per Jims advice. I then got in the car and worked the throttle for a couple minutes and it freed up nicely.

Rick - Is all of the radio stuff that we need with Martins helmet?

Victor - If you need to leave your car here it isn't a problem at all. Whatever works best for you.

Mr. Oyen - Thank you for your inspirational words. My goal is to finish the race and to use a quote from Rick "Not crash like Nasclowns."

Let me know how it goes tonight guys. I am planning on working on it tomorrow morning to do any finishing work that needs doing. Please come up with a list if there is anything else.

Rick

09-26-2007, 01:00 PM

I am assuming Kent and Jason will go with Jim

Kent, Jason and Mr. New Castle are riding with the RV. They will be meeting us at CIR.

We could leave here around 3 and be sitting in the fancy cars at Victors work by about 4 waiting for him to get off of work.Yes this sounds like a good idea... except for the fact that we would have to back track such a long way. FVMC is located near 64 and Prince Crossing. That's 8 minutes from my house. If you're going to go that far, might as well come pick me up too.

Rick - Is all of the radio stuff that we need with Martins helmet? According to Larry and Mike, it is.

Mr. Oyen - Thank you for your inspirational words. My goal is to finish the race and to use a quote from Rick "Not crash like Nasclowns."Yes, we should have a stipulation of "Whomever crashes and totals the car, shall have to store the car at their house until next year.".

JAYKAY

09-26-2007, 01:07 PM

Yes, we should have a stipulation of "Whomever crashes and totals the car, shall have to store the car at their house until next year.".

That sounds like a plan. A little negative reinforcement never hurts. I will arrange with Jason or Kent to get our pal from Manchester ready to go. He needs to stay cold so we will need at least two big bags of ice to start.

Jim

CIR-Reed

09-26-2007, 01:15 PM

What will they be driving to meet us with the RV?

It almost sounds like we should arrange for myself, Martin, and the RV to meet all of you guys farther south somewhere. The track is over near detroit so we have to go south from here anyway. It does seem silly for you guys to drive up here to basically just drive back south past your houses anyway.

We will probably also need some sort of garbage can or something to keep our foreign guest in. Maybe also some tie down straps to avoid him tipping over.

pmpnuss

09-26-2007, 01:16 PM

I will talk to my boss and see if i can get off at 4. Rick if you meet me here at FVMC we can both go to cir together.

Rick

09-26-2007, 01:17 PM

Well Jim works at BP in Warrenville. I live 5 minutes from BP. FVMC is about 8-10 minutes Northeast of Warrenville. And most importantly, the gentleman from Manchester is about 10-15 minutes away from BP.

CIR-Reed

09-26-2007, 01:20 PM

So it sounds like it would be much smarter for you guys to all get together somewhere down there and for Marty and I to pick you up on the way. All I need is a time and some directions.

Rick

09-26-2007, 01:23 PM

Location will depend on whether or not Jim is riding with the RV.

pmpnuss

09-26-2007, 01:48 PM

location also depends on if you can leave the cars there over 2 nights and if we can pick them up on a sunday.

pmpnuss

09-26-2007, 01:49 PM

What highways are you going to take to get to the track? We can meet at someones house. I live off of 355 and 55 i work at fvmc off north av and county farm.

Rick

09-26-2007, 02:11 PM

What highways are you going to take to get to the track? We can meet at someones house. I live off of 355 and 55 i work at fvmc off north av and county farm.

Actually, the most direct route would be to take 90 to 94 towards Indiana. But I guess we could take 294 which is still closer to CIR than we are. Either way, we'd have to make our way to 294. It will be rush hour on Friday. That will suck. It's a good thing that we will have the company of the gentleman from Manchester.

pmpnuss

09-26-2007, 02:13 PM

You can get on 294 from 55 or hop on 355 to 88 to 294 either way we need to know were to meet

CIR-Reed

09-26-2007, 02:55 PM

If we leave right at 4 o'clock from somewhere near FVMC or Naperville it won't be horrific. If we don't get out of there until more like 5 it will be an epic journey.

Jim's house is actually not a bad location if a couple of cars can sit there over the weekend. We could then take 88 or Ogden back to 294 and go south towards 80/94 which will then take us around the lake.

This of course all hinges on Martin getting out of work early on Friday and actually being capable of picking up the RV at 2.

Rick

09-26-2007, 03:01 PM

This of course all hinges on Martin getting out of work early on Friday and actually being capable of picking up the RV at 2.

Someone has to sneak into his work and leave a trail of little bottles of scotch (like the ones they have on planes) from his office all the way out of the building and into your car.

CIR-Reed

09-26-2007, 03:33 PM

Except I cannot get the RV unless he is with me so I would have to leave the bottles all the way to the rental location.

Rick

09-26-2007, 03:46 PM

Except I cannot get the RV unless he is with me so I would have to leave the bottles all the way to the rental location.

Whoops.. corrected.

JAYKAY

09-26-2007, 04:22 PM

I believe that I will have room for two cars behind the house since Jayme will be home I need to leave her a spot. Otherwise, all of you Naperville / Warrenville types could just drop the cars in the lot here at work, I am sure that nobody will notice. When people travel out of here on business it is not uncommon for them to leave their cars here. Just a thought.

Jim

Rick

09-27-2007, 12:03 PM

JAYKAY

09-27-2007, 12:24 PM

Where are Jason and Kent going to be? If they go to your house, are they parking there too? I was thinking that Victor could pick me up and we'll go to Jim's house and park one car there. That way Jason and Kent could also park a car there.

Sounds good. I came to that same conclusion last night over a burrito. If Victor picks you up Jason can get Kent and our British friend before meeting there. That way Reed and Martin only have to make one stop and the cars are in a good area.

Jim

rystar

09-28-2007, 08:28 AM

Good Luck to all you guys. I am a little upset I am going to miss this one. Take pictures, bring the barrell home empty, have fun and be safe.

pmpnuss

09-28-2007, 08:39 AM

Crunch time guyz What are we going to forget? Who is bringing the tools? I can bring some stuff but not all of them. also Rick i need directions to pick you up.

pmpnuss

09-28-2007, 08:40 AM

The yellow says What are we going to forget?

Clueless 1

09-28-2007, 09:12 AM

Good luck you crazy fools.

It's a sure sign of success when your trailer costs more than your race car.

Never settle, it's not over 'till it's over.:thumbsup:

Rick

09-28-2007, 09:45 AM

Thanks Rick.

Vic

09-28-2007, 10:00 AM

Good luck! I can't wait to see pics/vids and read about your adventure.

peterjank

09-28-2007, 08:07 PM

Jim and I had a smooth drive over to the track today. We left about 9:30am and arrived at the track at approximately 3:00pm Chicago time (4:00pm track time). The track is located approximately 15 miles from the Detroit Wayne County Airport for those of you familiar with the area.

Jim purchased spray paint from the local Loews and has completed painting the car in "Gold Leaf Team Lotus" style. We are awaiting arrival of our co-drivers with decals to complete the cars presentation. I will attempt to post pictures tomorrow if time permits. We have also filled the race car with gas and have about 11 gallons of additional fuel stock piled in jugs.

Last we heard our teamates had left CIR with the RV at approximately 7pm. My guess is that they will be arriving around 1am or 2am here at the track. Luckily, I did bring along a sleeping bag. Jim will be sleeping on the floor of the trailer, with the sleeping bag providing padding. I will be sleepng on the bench seat in the back of my pickup.

El 77

09-29-2007, 09:41 AM

Good luck!
I'm living vicariously through you guys.

Give 'em hell! and take no prisoners!

:shooting_smilie2:

Clueless 1

09-29-2007, 02:04 PM

Good luck you guys!!

Peter can you call me with you and Jims phone numbers. You can get my number from Reed

peterjank

09-29-2007, 04:56 PM

Hi Rick,

I will ask Reed for your number when I get back up to the stand.

Here is our first update.

The race started about 15 minutes late at 2:15pm Eastern time. They have an unusual starting procedure. They have all the cars circle the track under yellow, then randomly select someone as the leader and drop the green flag. We had poor luck as they picked someone only about 8 cars behind Reed as the "leader" at the start, making us 32nd. Reed did a great job moving up through the field. He had us in 13th at the end of the first hour and 8th when he handed the car over to me at the end of the 2nd hour.

My stint was very eventful. About 15 minutes into my stint, the train of cars I was in stopped very suddenly. I bumped the car in front of me. Then the guy behind me hit me real hard, pushing me into the car in front of me very hard and bending up the nose. The team called me in immediately to access damage and make repairs. They ended up removing the right front fender. We lost about 10 laps in the process and fell to 13th. Over the next 45 minutes, I moved us back up to 7th.

Jim took over the car at the start of the third hour and is doing a good job thus far. When I checked just before logging on, we were running fifth.

That's it for now. I'll try to post another update after my next stint.

Clueless 1

09-29-2007, 05:31 PM

Peter, Sounds like things are going ok.

When you update could you give some idea of relative position?

Like maybe list the lap diff from position to position or just note what lap the leader is on and the lap number of your team?

peterjank

09-30-2007, 01:30 AM

Hi All,

Here is an update on our progress with the race at the halfway point.

Shortly after my first update at the four hour mark, we developed a leak in our fuel system. The change in fuel line went smoothly. However, the engine was running very rough and it took a while to diagnoss the problem as an air leak between the fresh air intake and the engine. We lost about 60 laps in total while in the pits and fell to 19th. However, the car was now running stronger than it had at the start of the race. Rick made good use of it during his stint, gaining about 5 laps on the leaders and advancing us back to 11th.

After Rick completed his stint, I went off to sleep so I can't give you much detail about the ensuing stints by Martin and Jim. However, I am happy to report that we are now up to 7th, only 9 laps down to 6th and 15 laps down to 5th. A top 5 is a good possibility but a win seems unlikely at this point. We are 74 laps down to the leader.

Reed is in the car now and I will be taking over around 3:30am eastern.

peterjank

09-30-2007, 05:36 AM

Hi all,

Here is an update on our progress at the 16 hour mark.

Another step forward, followed by two backward. During my three hour stint we managed to move from seventh to fourth. Unfortunately, my stint ended with a spectacular shower of steam from a blown heater core.

After about 40 minutes in the pits for repairs, we sent Rick out for his stint in 10, 2 laps down to 9th and 155 laps down to the overall leader. In the past 30 minutes he has made up the two laps and appears likely to move into 9th shortly.

peterjank

09-30-2007, 06:59 AM

With regret, I report that our race ended at approximately 7:30am with a burst radiator. Rick was running 8th at the time. We completed a total of 1560 laps.

We've learned a lot about the importance of car preparation. Next year we plan on replacing the fuel line before the race and removing the heater core as well.

SNOOPY1

09-30-2007, 07:45 AM

Sorry Team. Better luck next year....but I read they added a fourth race to the season this year

Clueless 1

09-30-2007, 08:31 AM

At least you tried.

You learned alot.

It was a thrilling experience.

You met some new friends.

You cemented your bond with old friends.

I could go on saying nice things, but nothing really eases the pain, except time.:frown:

Rick

09-30-2007, 08:54 PM

Our team was relatively well prepared compared to most of the other teams. I think our fueling system was a really good idea and that gave us a huge advantage in pitstops. Even though some of the other teams had larger crews, I think our crew was extremely efficient and fast. Victor, Jason and Kent did a great job of keeping the car running and getting us in and out of the pits. We could not have done as well as we did without them. Thanks guys!

The race was very interesting. It was like a NASCAR race consisting of 40 cars on a relatively high speed autocross track. The "inner section" of the track was more like the Chicago Loop at 5pm on a Friday evening. There was a mixture of cars ranging from Volvo station wagons, to Caprices, to an RX7. The lighter cars tended to use there superior handling (and sometimes motor) to get by the bigger cars. The bigger cars tended to try to make their car even wider than it already was. There was lots of rubbing and contact both incidental and intentional (probably more of the intentional type). I wish we had pictures of the progression of body changes of the car through out the race. The before and after pictures are hilarious.

Once again, many thanks to Rick Bartuska, Art, Victor, Jason and Kent for all their help.

Rick

10-01-2007, 10:40 AM

Team #30 won.

Next year we need to have a big steel bar welded on to reinforce the front bumper like team #30:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/viergang/lemi2.jpg

peterjank

10-01-2007, 01:34 PM

They also drove very conservatively. I passed them several times.

Rick

10-01-2007, 02:07 PM

They also drove very conservatively. I passed them several times.

Do you think that our team was driving too fast?

I read that the C/D team (and possibly other teams) had 2 or 3 car teams. One team even stated that one of the C/D team's purpose was to protect their lead car and also to hold up other cars. Team #30 even stated that car #54 was intentionally trying to take them out.

http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=3464726&page=1

pmpnuss

10-01-2007, 03:56 PM

:evil_lol: That makes sense. A lot of the cars on the track were just slow and big! next year maybe we can have a 2 car team. that way everybody can drive as long as they want. One car is for taking it easy and one for the demolition.

Rick

10-01-2007, 04:00 PM

How about something like this:

http://students.kennesaw.edu/%7Emdd5784/a-team-van.jpg

pmpnuss

10-01-2007, 04:04 PM

no something a little smaller and quicker like your exige s. We can weld bumbers around it so that nothing touches the clams:lol:

Rick

10-01-2007, 04:17 PM

Unfortunately, I don't have any of the "Before" pictures. I only have the "After" pictures. Enjoy:

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/24_Hours_Of_Lemons_1.JPG

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/24_Hours_Of_Lemons_2.JPG

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/24_Hours_Of_Lemons_3.JPG

Rick

10-01-2007, 04:18 PM

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/24_Hours_Of_Lemons_4.JPG

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/24_Hours_Of_Lemons_5.JPG

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/24_Hours_Of_Lemons_6.JPG

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/24_Hours_Of_Lemons_7.JPG

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/24_Hours_Of_Lemons_8.JPG

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/24_Hours_Of_Lemons_9.JPG

Rick

10-01-2007, 04:23 PM

It looks so sad. :frown: Poor baby.

CIR-Reed

10-01-2007, 04:25 PM

Rick

10-01-2007, 04:26 PM

Also many thanks to TMI (Rick Bartuska's company), Sticker Dudes, Fox Valley Motorcars, FAST Fresh Air Systems, and RazorImage for helping out.

Rick

10-01-2007, 04:31 PM

There has alread been some conversation about a 3 car team next year containing some pretty interesting people.

What do you guys think about attempting to find 3 of the same car and running a 3 car team? I think it would be a huge advantage if possible. We could have tons of spares.

Some of the people that want to do it have lots of fabrication, racing, preperation, planning, endurance racing type experience.

I think it's a good idea but I think it also depends on what everyone's budget is. Is the entire team going to rotate through each of the 3 cars? Or we going to just triple the number of drivers and crew? A two car team might be more financially appealing to some of our team members. Victor had expressed interest in driving next year.

CIR-Reed

10-01-2007, 04:47 PM

You forgot to mention Art Kopp who did all of the fabrication and install on the roll cage.

You also forgot Northstar motorsports who had the seat we needed on the floor and ready to go.

Rick

10-01-2007, 04:56 PM

You forgot to mention Art Kopp who did all of the fabrication and install on the roll cage.

I did not forget Art. How can you forget the guy that you put your life into his hands with? I mentioned him in my first post that thanked people (http://www.chicagoracers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15998&postcount=339).

Rick

10-01-2007, 05:43 PM

Thank You dinner for crew and supporters

I talked to Jim and we think that October 13th or October 20th would be ideal to get together for a dinner. Please respond with the date(s) which work for you.

Clueless 1

10-01-2007, 05:45 PM

The 20th, the 13th I'm at the Runoffs the 5th thru the 15th, but whatever works for you guys

Rick

10-01-2007, 05:55 PM

Both dates work for me. 27th is no good for Martin and I due to 100 Lap Halloween race at CHMS.

We need one of these babies next year:

http://www.majorpolicesupply.com/products/1000series.jpg

http://www.majorpolicesupply.com/Productdetail.asp_prodID=128.html

Either buy one or just fabricate one.

Clueless 1

10-01-2007, 06:23 PM

Forget that.....Start looking for a used M-1 Tank.

Rick

10-01-2007, 06:30 PM

Forget that.....Start looking for a used M-1 Tank.

:lol: Martin had already recommended that.

http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm

Rick

10-01-2007, 07:51 PM

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1206/1464529509_a28a7d4555.jpg?v=0

Rick

10-01-2007, 07:56 PM

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peterjank

10-01-2007, 09:35 PM

Reed,
I like the idea of a multi-car team. We could share mechanics as well. Victor did a great job, but it is too much to ask anyone to stay up for 24 hours. With two mechanics, they could work as schedule allowing each a block of uninterrupted rest.
We could also share the dump can and catch can. Leaving us the task of finding two fuel cells and dry brakes for the other cars.
Either date for the dinner (13th or 20th) works for me at this point. Looks like the 20th works better for your dad, so I'll vote for that. Good luck to Rick B at the runoffs!

Rick A,
I don't think we were driving too fast. We might have been too aggressive at times, but I don't think we abused the car with excessive speed.

Everybody,
Here is a link to my photo album for the event. It contains shots of the car before leaving for the race and also several shots of competitor cars:
http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?mode=fromshare&Uc=54emrir.31sg0qun&Uy=oomqnb&Ux=0

pmpnuss

10-02-2007, 10:04 AM

The 13 sounds good to me i am available what time and were are we going to meet

Rick

10-02-2007, 05:13 PM

I found our pit crew for next year.

pD4Gokp0RPU

JAYKAY

10-03-2007, 02:55 PM

pmpnuss

10-03-2007, 04:59 PM

Rick

10-03-2007, 05:10 PM

Or we can go get drunk somewere.

We already did that on the way to the race. :puke: :puke:

You can get drunk again on the 20th. :)

Martin Lenick

10-03-2007, 06:24 PM

Can everybody please PM me with all relevent expenses from the LeMons project? Obviously helmet mikes and the like are excluded, but send me everything else and I will pull together a spreadsheet to get the final tally. Include Fuel for the RV and the truck over the weekend so that we all share those expenses as well.

Thanks,

Jim
A finally tally would be interesting, but I never thought we were all "sharing" the expenses: I did zero work and expected to offset that with a larger financial contribution. Now don't go trying to divide by zero - I don't have infinite cash. But, if there's any shadow of a doubt that I owe more money (food?, beer? no, scratch the beer - that's for Rick) just let me know and I'll pony up. I'll also try to remember the total for the 38 places we stopped to fuel the RV, but that's for information only - I never intended to be reimbursed for that.

Martin Lenick

10-03-2007, 06:34 PM

I haven't got an exact figure but at normal lotus charge (100 plus an hour) it would be expensive. I ll give you guys a break half price 50 an hour. The car ran for aproximately 17 hours so 50 x 17 = $850 :whistle: Thats sound decent. Or we can go get drunk somewere. I'll let you guyz decide.:lol: :lol: :clap:

I'm able to drink for more than 17 hours, and can certainly enjoy a good single-malt that would exceed $50/hr. We should just pay you off but I'd rather take the financial risk and go get drunk somewhere. :)

Thanks for everything. You were professional at work and lots of fun "off the job".

JAYKAY

10-03-2007, 06:40 PM

Since we were sharing the cost of the car, I figured we would throw the weekend expenses on there as well since we all benefited from the RV and from Peter towing the car out there. My rough estimate would be that we spent $500 to $700 on gas alone for the weekend.

Jim

Clueless 1

10-03-2007, 09:08 PM

I haven't got an exact figure but at normal lotus charge (100 plus an hour) it would be expensive. I ll give you guys a break half price 50 an hour. The car ran for aproximately 17 hours so 50 x 17 = $850 :whistle: Thats sound decent. Or we can go get drunk somewere. I'll let you guyz decide.:lol: :lol: :clap:

Ahuh...and the shop rental charges $300.00/hr while workers are present, plus the night time storage fees, plus disposal of waste oil and other toxic items, garbage collection fees, security, oversite,document fees, shipping and destination charges and the all important sales tax......let's see....hmmmmm.......ahhh.......$11,948.36. I'll settle for a double Johnnie Walker Black on the rocs:)

JAYKAY

10-03-2007, 10:44 PM

Ahuh...and the shop rental charges $300.00/hr while workers are present, plus the night time storage fees, plus disposal of waste oil and other toxic items, garbage collection fees, security, oversite,document fees, shipping and destination charges and the all important sales tax......let's see....hmmmmm.......ahhh.......$11,948.36. I'll settle for a double Johnnie Walker Black on the rocs:)

You are selling it short, for what you put up with you deserve Johnnie Green or Blue.

pmpnuss

10-04-2007, 08:05 AM

Martin
I victor knowing that I am a lite weight that gets dunk after a six pack or 4shots. Accept your offer for the services provided.

Lawyer
Jose cuervo
Witness
Corona
Notary public
AA chapter

Adam Andrea

10-04-2007, 09:28 AM

Why dont you guys just rent a car next year and pay for the insurance?

MPIGP - Phillip Gordon

10-04-2007, 05:08 PM

Why dont you guys just rent a car next year and pay for the insurance?

LOL great idea Adam.

Martin Lenick

10-04-2007, 06:59 PM

Martin
I victor knowing that I am a lite weight that gets dunk after a six pack or 4shots. Accept your offer for the services provided.

Lawyer
Jose cuervo
Witness
Corona
Notary public
AA chapter

I will now not only prefer to hire Victor for technical services, but legal advice, too!! Great legal team! :lol:

Martin Lenick

10-04-2007, 09:23 PM

Vivian was supposed to be at the race. What happened, Vivian?:frown:

Vivian

10-04-2007, 09:42 PM

i called you and you never answered your phone :frown:

Rick

10-09-2007, 11:49 AM

http://www.chicagoracers.com/images/2007LemonsBefore.jpg

rystar

10-09-2007, 01:10 PM

Rick,
You look like you just threw up?:puke: :puke:

Rick

10-09-2007, 04:16 PM

Rick,
You look like you just threw up?:puke: :puke:

That's because I did just throw up prior to that picture. :redface:

Martin Lenick

10-09-2007, 08:17 PM

i called you and you never answered your phone :frown:
To say, "I'm not glued to my cell-phone" would be an understatement, as you know. At work or at Track 4; either is a better bet.

Your appearance or, better yet, participation in the next CIR event is greatly anticipated. Contact Reed regarding your "OSKAR" name versus your forum name. Given my history of contempt for fake names on this forum, I'm going to have a difficult time defending the difference between your "OSKAR" name and your ChicagoRacers name, but, at least I know better than to ask a woman her age.

Vivian

10-09-2007, 09:22 PM

:wave: hiya martin! can you teach me how to go fast at cir one of these days?

Martin Lenick

10-09-2007, 09:31 PM

:wave: hiya martin! can you teach me how to go fast at cir one of these days?
I'm going to wait until I'm sober before replying to that.:redface:
Anybody else want to step in before I get in trouble?

edit: Rick, you're on-line and far faster at CIR than I am.

pmpnuss

10-10-2007, 01:51 PM

JAYKAY

10-10-2007, 01:55 PM

Have anyone decided were we are going to meet on the 20 and what time.
I have a training course that day until 5 and am available after that. It is in elk grove. If you guyz just want to do something at CIR thats ok with me.

I was thinking of a restaurant near Woodfield, or Oak Brook. Those are probably the two best areas given where everybody lives. Since you are going to be in Elk Grove, how about someplace near Woodfield? Pappadeux's is usually good, but I am open to suggestions.

Rick

10-10-2007, 03:13 PM

I like the CIR idea. Racing with all the guys would be fun. We'll have to figure out a way to even out the teams though.

As far as restaurants are concerned, there is also Bob Chinn's which is located near CIR. The ones that Jim mentioned are good as well. There's a good Greek restuarant in Oak Brook mall.